Posts by life is to short

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Warwick Building Project Fluff Stories

by bruh2012 in

talking about an article that makes you want to throw-up in your mouth- wt-study jan 15, 2015 the offered themselves willingly.. amazing the psych job of selling your business, moving your entire family, quiting your job to be a "temporary" worker at the new world headquarters!.

throw your livelyhood away only to get the "feeling" that jehovahs is blessing you!

i wish there was away to track the psych job during patterson and other major projects of what happened to all the "friends" that sold and got rid of their livelyhood then and where are they now.. did you ever sacrifce it all for a building project only to be left with nothing after your "spiritual high"?.

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wallsofjericho

You wrote "as I get older I have concluded that it's not about a lack of love, it's just that people have their own lives & problems and don't particularly care about yours. Why should they bail you out? Who's bailing them out? No one, they have to deal with all their own problems and if your dumb enough to buy into the WTS hype about all those awesome blessings then you can bless your way back to reality with the rest us."

I understand some of what you are saying but when you are young and this religon is all you have ever known, than to have someone your age up there conducting the WT and praising what it says. Glorifying what the GB is asking for us to give up everything and saying how great the expreances are and what blessings from Jehovah we would receive if we did what is asked. What are the young ones to think.

I know, I know, I was stupid and have only myself to blame. I get that now, I was very stupid, because I never really looked at what you were doing yourself. How you were not buying into the hype but I was always taught by ones like you to keep my blinders on and not to look at what other people were doing only what Jehovah wanted me to do and when you are on the stage spouting off while conducting the WT or during the service meeting telling me as a parrot for the GB that I should be doing this and telling me it was coming from Jehovah. How can you not feel you have some skin in the game for causing the ruin of people's lives.

I know when we were selling off our few possessions we had older ones in the "truth" offer us a dime on a dollar for what we had. We heated our home with wood and we had over six cords of wood we needed to sell as we went to Bethel in December. Cords of wood were going for $125 a cord back than in our area. This one elder knew we needed to sell it but he thought no one would buy it from us so two day, two days mind you before we were leaving he came to us and offered us $ 20.00 a cord. He thought we would just jump on it. I was so mad. We had luckly fortunately already sold it but the look on this elders face was like WHAT!!!!! This thief had not gotten on the wood he needed because he was banking on us just jumping at his kind offer.

Thoes are the kinds of things that even now, even though I know I was stupid still get to me. Why wallsofjericho are you still in, still misleading people by being there even if you are not an elder or MS you are still supporting it by just being part of it.

You say they can just bless themselves back to the reality with the rest of us. We did but it sure would have been nice not to have been mislead in the first place and to have been told the honest truth,

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CANDACE CONTI - What's the current status?

by EdenOne in

i'm in a little urgency to know this, so please, if you can help:.

as far as i understand, this is the sequence of events:.

a) june 14th 2012 - on a trial by jury, cancace conti wins a civil law case involving child sexual abuse.

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CANDACE CONTI - What's the current status?

by EdenOne in

i'm in a little urgency to know this, so please, if you can help:.

as far as i understand, this is the sequence of events:.

a) june 14th 2012 - on a trial by jury, cancace conti wins a civil law case involving child sexual abuse.

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Warwick Building Project Fluff Stories

by bruh2012 in

talking about an article that makes you want to throw-up in your mouth- wt-study jan 15, 2015 the offered themselves willingly.. amazing the psych job of selling your business, moving your entire family, quiting your job to be a "temporary" worker at the new world headquarters!.

throw your livelyhood away only to get the "feeling" that jehovahs is blessing you!

i wish there was away to track the psych job during patterson and other major projects of what happened to all the "friends" that sold and got rid of their livelyhood then and where are they now.. did you ever sacrifce it all for a building project only to be left with nothing after your "spiritual high"?.

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I posted this on another thread last week about this subject, I just cut an pasted what I wrote last week.

My husband and I did exactly that in 1991 when they needed to build 90 Sands in Brooklyn. I felt just like all those couples mentioned and was sure that Jehovah would provide if and when we left. We sold everything except what we could fit in our 1984 Hond Civic.

All I can say looking back is what a fool I was and what fools they are.

I literally prayed by brains our begging Jehovah for help, for a place to go, etc after the job was done at Bethel and we were laid off. Jehovah did not provide anything for us when we left, not even a congregation that wanted us. Many in the hall we went to looked down on us for being so stupid. It was such an eye opener to how much there is a huge lack of love in this religion. No one offered us anything, any help, a place to stay NOTHING. One sister did offer us her home for $200.00 over the going rent in the area and it was full of her junk which we were suposed to live with. Literarlly it was full of boxes and boxes of her stuff that we were just suposed to put up with. She was bat beep crazy. Here we were just out from Bethel and no jobs. She was offeded that we did'nt jump on her kind offer.

I was in my mid 20's and very idealistic, all I can say is that someone in their 40's, 50's, and 60's should definitely know better and they are headed for ruin. Now I can kind of understand why some in the hall looked at us like they did. I just felt like most of the ones in the hall felt we were so stupid and most truly did not care about Bethel. No one wanted to hear any of our experiences or see any of the pictures we had taken. In fact I showed some of the friends some of the pictures and this one sister left just glanced at them then left the pictures in the sun, when I asked her where they were so said she had just thrown them over on the this table in full sun and they were ruined. We did not have a lot of money and I had spent a lot to get them printed. This was before smart phone, etc. I was just amazed at how most of the JW's could care less about Bethel. In fact most of the JW's in the hall we went to in Brooklyn had never even been to visit Bethel. All they had to do was take a train ride and well over half the hall had never been to Bethel even through they lived in New York.

And now looking back I realize that 90 Sands was just for them to make money off. What a joke it all was, I gave up so much. So many years that I could have been making money to take care of myself in old age instead of having to work so hard now. Those people quoted in the WT are are just such fools.

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Another thing they fail to mention is that a lot of those couples who are in their 40's to 60's have worked full time jobs or at least the husband has while the wife pioneered, they have pensions and other money coming in from investments. So they are not going to Bethel with nothing like we did.

I know ALL the couples that were in their 40's, 50's and 60's we when we were there for 90 Sands had outside money coming in, most still owed their homes and rented them out or had the money from the sale of their home sitting in a bank account. No one who was older just came on a prayer and the hope that Jehovah would pick it up for them. My husband and I were one of the few truly stupid persons that bought into the garbage in the Watchtower.

Also Gill Nazroff who was head of the building program at the time and a real jerk we soon found out, told just my husband and I on our first day at Bethel to expect nothing from anyone. Gill said that he was 'so sick of people selling off everything and then running out of money and getting mad at Bethel for putting them in such a place.' Gill said 'no one made them come.' 'That Bethel even recived letters from ones who were broke with nothing and no one to help them asking Bethel why Jehoivah was not helping them.' But Gill told us 'it was not Bethel's fault nor Bethel's place to help them.'

I wonder why they do not put Gill's comments in the WT?

I was so stupid and even though Gill said that right off the bat on the first day to us I still thought Jehovah would help. In hindsight if Jehovah was involved it was Jehovah telling us to RUN. I was to stupid to see it.

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Worker falls from KH roof during quick build

by piztjw in

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i heard through the grapevine that one of the slave laborers was walking backwards on the roof of the falls city, nebraska quick build this weekend and fell of the roof.

i heard he landed on his back and head and sustained some pretty serious injuries.. anyone in that area that might provide more information?

extent of injury?

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When I was at Bethel in the early 90's we were working on the Jersey assembly hall while waiting for 90 Sands to start. I am extremely afraid of hights, I just am, I have been my whole life. So my overseer wants me go out on scaffording three stories high. I was so scarred and I told my overseer I am really freaked out over heights. My overseer was sooooo MAD at me and asked why I even brothered to come to Bethel if I was not willing to work. So I really tried to put aside my fears and climbed out on the scaffording, I tried not to look down which is almost impossible but the boards on the scaffording were so warped that they were wobbling the whole time and the scaffording shaking. I just froze in frear gripped the sides of the scaffording and couild not move.

Talk about being ticked off, my overseer was extremally livid with anger at me. He yelled for me to just come back inside and found something else for me to do. It was hard for me because of my overseers anger and he showed it so clearly. I mean I really wanted to be at Bethel and to be told that I was lazy and only there for the free food and shelter (which my overseer really did say) was hard for me to take.

I know I did things that were not safe but I felt I had no chose.

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Hey I am Back

by mouthy in

did anyone miss me????.

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Of course we missed you. Gald your back.

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Tv.jw.org - Average Jdub reaction? I'm getting NOTHING but Silence!

by 4thgen in

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hello all, as you know, when jw tv was announced, our board went wild.

many comments, much speculation and alot of negative feedback on the quality, etc.

well, what has me concerned is that i have not heard a peep from any of my connections left in kingdom-land.

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I thought this was strange also. My husband went to his sepical assembly day this past Sunday and he said not one word was mentioned about it. My girlfriend from Bethel was just raving and raving about it last weekend and she texted me Monday morning saying it was on and it had started. She was so excited ( she does not know that I do not believe anymore. She lives accrose the country from me and she is a totally lifer she will never leave the religion EVER. We were very, very close at Bethel she was truly like a sister to me and I just do not have the heart to tell her how I really feel. It would be pointless.) So anyway I texed her back saying how great it was etc and I have heard nothing back. It's been a week now NOTHING. Strange. I keep thinking maybe she sees through me and thinks I am making fun of it but I do not see how as I have reread and reread my text to make sure that I did'nt come off snorky. It is just strange, not one word from anyone, even in my husband's hall.

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My appeal was successful. Now what?

by noonehome in

faders: why do we bother staying in?.

we cling to some false hope that people we love will accept us despite our not believing, even though its as much a fairytale as the dogmas based on untruths.. ive never been anything but a good friend and human being and would do anything for the people i love; i couldnt dream of shutting out someone i care about.

and its not like theyd revel in the idea of doing it either, yet its seen as not just the only choice, but also as undoubtedly the right thing to do.

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WT asking people to sell and uproot life to help w/ temporary building projects...

by EndofMysteries in

check out the new jan 2015 study wt, article, they offer themselves willingly.

they give examples of young and middle age brothers and sisters who are selling their dream homes, uprooting their lives, etc, to move to help w/ building branches, etc, and how they know it's only temporary but not worried about what happens when they send them home.

they then say will you put jah to the test and see if he won't open the flood gates of blessings for you.

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Thanks OTWO. It helps to talk about it now as it still hurts so much now that I allowed myself to be so duped into a lie and to see that they are still at it, it just makes me sick.

In all honesty there were parts of Bethel I loved. We came from serving were the need was great and it was the congreagtion from HELL. We did not have a life, marriage, anything. My husband was at the beck and call of anyone in the hall. Most of that hall was crazy, mentally ill with doctor's care. It was horrible. I even went to the CO and told him I was losing it and he got ticked off telling me that 'Jehovah was using my husband now in the hall and I could have a marriage in the new system that was going to happend very soon.'

So going to Bethel was like getting out of prison. We could finally eat dinner together as a couple even if it meant being at a table with 8 other people it was so much better than where I had come from. As busy as we were at Bethel it was nothing compared to how busy we were in that crazy hall.

Bottom line we were used but we were used less at Bethel than serving were the need was great. But still it just frosts me to see they lying like they did 20 years ago to get people to come build 90 Sands. In five ten years they will lay off again, until they find a new need.

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PS sorry about my spelling. I try to proff it but when I look back it's horrible. I just get so upset on some topics that my fingers move faster than I realize and I am just a horrible speller to begin with. After all I was not allowed to go to high school as the new system was going to happen before I would finsh 30 plus years ago.

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WT asking people to sell and uproot life to help w/ temporary building projects...

by EndofMysteries in

check out the new jan 2015 study wt, article, they offer themselves willingly.

they give examples of young and middle age brothers and sisters who are selling their dream homes, uprooting their lives, etc, to move to help w/ building branches, etc, and how they know it's only temporary but not worried about what happens when they send them home.

they then say will you put jah to the test and see if he won't open the flood gates of blessings for you.

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Another thing they fail to mention is that a lot of those couples who are in their 40's to 60's have worked full time jobs or at least the husband has while the wife pioneered, they have pensions and other money coming in from investments. So they are not going to Bethel with nothing like we did.

I know ALL the couples that were in their 40's, 50's and 60's we when we were there for 90 Sands had outside money coming in, most still owed their homes and rented them out or had the money from the sale of their home sitting in a bank account. No one who was older just came on a prayer and the hope that Jehovah would pick it up for them. My husband and I were one of the few truly stupid persons that bought into the garbage in the Watchtower.

Also Gill Nazroff who was head of the building program at the time and a real jerk we soon found out, told just my husband and I on our first day at Bethel to expect nothing from anyone. Gill said that he was 'so sick of people selling off everything and then running out of money and getting mad at Bethel for putting them in such a place.' Gill said 'no one made them come.' 'That Bethel even recived letters from ones who were broke with nothing and no one to help them asking Bethel why Jehoivah was not helping them.' But Gill told us 'it was not Bethel's fault nor Bethel's place to help them.'

I wonder why they do not put Gill's comments in the WT?

I was so stupid and even though Gill said that right off the bat on the first day to us I still thought Jehovah would help. In hindsight if Jehovah was involved it was Jehovah telling us to RUN. I was to stupid to see it.

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